18" SOCOM Profile Barrel, 4150 Chrome Moly Vanadium, Parkerized Finish. blakeforeal New Member. Save 25%. When in doubt call Colt! As a commerical profile, there really isn't a set standard for HBAR. Parkerized finish. there is an appreciable difference in barrel weight b/w the two, about 12 oz. SOCOM requested the mid profile to better handle the volume of fire from their shooters. Here is the review of the best 458 SOCOM upper in 2021. Dec 24, 2004 #4. I would like to place the order tomorrow (Pay day) but I am torn between the standard M4 barrel and the M4 SOCOM barrel. 100% American made. I want a 16" barrel that is lighter than my HBAR but I also want it to be a heavy duty barrel. So I am currently on the market for a barrel to finish up my first AR build and I am torn between the SOCOM and Standard M4 gov profile barrels. These days, everyone wants to be like SOCOM, right? These thick barrel profiles are stiff, they can handle high volume of fire, and they can toss lead with a high degree of precision… Yet HBAR remains a dirty … Dang TACAV, you beat me to it. I do own a couple M4 profile and a M4A1 profiled rifles, which is believe is what a SOCOM barrel is, and I think the M4A1 is a better follow up shooter in that the barrel being heavier profile(under handguard) it helps calm down the recoil and muzzle rise. Button rifled with 1-14 rh twist. Government-specified barrel profile increased to between 0.675 and 0.575 inches; A2: Also referred to as the "government" or "gov't" profile. This type of barrel has a consistent heavier barrel wall thickness than standard issue, and is a common upgrade for AR15 type rifles. 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Colt 11.5" M4 6933 FBI HRT SOCOM barrel w/ FSB Offered for sale is a genuine Colt M4 barrel, 11-1/2” heavy profile with a front sight (FSB) and barrel nut, ready to attach to your M4 or AR15 upper receiver . KAK INDUSTRY is a design and manufacturing company that specializes in wildcat uppers for LR-308 platform and AR15. Ours were all full size rifles except for one Socom and they all shot well, with the exception of the lone Socom. Neither USSOCOM nor its contributors are responsible for the content of any off-site pages that are referenced by or that reference to USSOCOM's Home Page. I don't own any SOCOM rifles. Nov 23, 2012 #12. misfit-x Guest. The M1A is a great rifle and my sons and I have owned and shot many over the last 30 years. A forum community dedicated to all firearm owners and enthusiasts. I have a 12" aluminum M-lock free float Hand guard and a standard A2 birdcage flash hider. Barrels are manufactured from two types of steel. profile and the hbar is under the HGs. 16" 5.56 Gov / SOCOM Mid length M-LOK AR 15 Upper Assembly (OD Green) The 16" 5.56 Government profile AR 15 Upper with mid length gas system is built on a 7075-T6 forged aluminum upper receiver. "I Would Give My Right Arm To Be Ambidextrous". Best Bow Press Review in 2021 – New Edition . Faxon's Gunner profile combines the durability of the Gov't profile with the weight savings and maneuverability of the Pencil profile. Each barrel is visually inspected and cleaned prior to assembly. A forum community dedicated to hunters and enthusiasts. Still keeping my eye out for the right upper to go with. I have a BCM upper on my longer range gun and it is a tack driver. Now I still have a Colt AR 20" barrel rifle but the lighter gov't profile barrel, not HBAR, it was a new never issued made in the '80s Colt M-16A2 upper half I bought after the ban ended in '05. The SOCOM M4 profile is a mid weight profile barrel for the M4A1 Carbine. Premium Grade AR-15 16" Heavy Profile Barrel, .458 SOCOM, 1:14, Stainless. I just bought a new STAG upper minus BCG and charge handle delivered to my house for 309$. Complete Uppers and Barreled Uppers can ship directly to the end user. 15" Lightweight Free Float M-LOK Rail. This rifle has been for sale on Gunbroker for several weeks at $1699.00 as of 5 FEB 2019. Carbine gas system, with .875 gas block diameter, threaded for comp. I don't notice the weight in that I've hunted with heavy hunting rifles all my life, so hunting with a 7lb rifle is light to me. If I was going to go with a 16 inch barrel, that's the exact one I'd choose. ODIN Works AR-15 16.25" .223 Wylde DMR Profile, Rifle Length Gas, 1-8T, 416 Stainless Barrel - With Tunable Gas Block $304.99 $289.99 Ballistic Advantage AR-15 13.7" 5.56 NATO, Government Profile, Mid-length Gas, 1:7T Nitride Barrel AR-15 .458 Socom 10" pistol upper assembly w/ 10" free float rail Barrel - 10" 4150CMV steel hbar barrel, M4 feedramps, non-fluted. The contour is Melonite-treated and threaded with a Panzer muzzle brake. PPS: I think its evident that a medium profile would be the best however in my price range most of the barrels are either HBAR or m4 style. Carbine gas system.. HBAR stands for heavy barrel, or heavy barrel automatic rifle. Heavy barrel is a commercial barrel profile. I want a 16" barrel that is lighter than my HBAR but I also want it to be a heavy duty barrel. You're misunderstanding bolt bounce and barrels. Hey guys! the difference b/w the gov. is the extra weight worth it? This was an FBI special order and used by hostage rescue team (HRT) and regional FBI units.Don't be fooled by other 'heavy' profile Colt barrels. Disengaging the safety increases the velocity 100%. Oct 7, 2014 #1 . Weight for a 20" in 2.5lbs. DSI .458 SOCOM 18" HBAR Carbine 1:14 Non-Threaded Stainless Steel Barrel $ 299.95. Got my Colt 6920 M4 carbine back in 2011 and immediately configured it similar but not exactly to an M4 carbine military type clone. Suite 500, Troy, Michigan 48084 USA. This is a totally different question. DSI .458 SOCOM 16" HBAR Profile Carbine 1:14 Threaded Stainless Steel Barrel BRL-458HB-16C14T-SS $299.95 JavaScript is disabled. Things I love: bullpups, mag-fed shotguns, Glocks-not-made-by-Glock, .458 SOCOM, 6.5 Grendel, giving my opinion Things I hate: .40S&W, KeyMod, AR pistols with buffer tubes, anything with an arm brace, fad-of-the-day long-range calibers The photos that were attached by another user match the markings on my HBAR to a T. I'm glad I did a little research. M-1 Garand, It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping! It shoots really well with the 77gr Sierra Match King, 75gr Amax, and 69gr Sierra Match King. SOCOM vs. Standard M4 gov profile barrel. the gov profile is skinnier than the forward part, the hbar is the same, or fatter than the forward part. This one starts with a 10.5-inch 4140 CMV Steel Barrel that has an HBAR contour. The design is a medium taper, and dubbed the SOCOM profile. So I am currently on the market for a barrel to finish up my first AR build and I am torn between the SOCOM and Standard M4 gov profile barrels. 16" Thin under the handguard, thicker in front of the sight, but has a groove cut there (to mount the front of the M203 grenade launcher on the military guns). For the record, the threading is 5/8×32. Faxon Firearms barrels are the pinnacle of value. Im starting to lean toward a heavy 16" upper. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This is what I use, It's $69 over your budget but it's a great barrel. A gun's barrel makes no difference to what causes bolt bounce. The barrel is 18", rifle length gas system, .223 Wylde chamber and 1:8" twist. What if you could only choose M4 or Hbar? I am set to get the BCM now. The Gunner profile brings the balance of the rifle back towards the shooter's body, limiting fatigue, and allowing for shooting, training, or hunting all day long. Have you considered this 16" M4 profile upper? .875 under gas block diameter. Ratings: +0 / 0. 0 Review . thanks TACAV, that does look like a good choice. 4 0 0. The Socom was a huge disappointment and I recommend the full size rifles. Funny thing was, the HBAR was born anew in various other forms… the SPR profile, the Colt SOCOM, etc. Come join the discussion about optics, trails, clubs, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more. This profile is being … If this were in stock it would be hard to resist: this one is alittle above my price range but would be almost perfect: I built one like what you are looking for. 4150 Gun Quality Steel, Heat Treated to RC 28-32 Hardness, and Stress Relieved. I am slightly leaning towards the SOCOM barrel but I am afraid that it might not make a difference on weight compare to my HBAR since I dont know the weight of my Barrel alone. Suite 500, Troy, Michigan 48084 USA. Paladin Guest. thanks for all the input guys. DSI .458 SOCOM 16" HBAR Profile Carbine 1:14 Threaded Stainless Steel Barrel $ 299.95. The friendliest gun forum on the Internet! Hey guys! 8.3" 9MM Straight Profile Barrel, Modern Series $115.00. DSI 5.56 16” SOCOM Mid-Length 1:7 Threaded Nitride Barrel $ 149.95. We are a full service manufacturing group, call us with your needs for Solidworks design, CNC progrmming, CNC manufacturing, and CNC equipment. Faxon’s “ Gunner ” profile errs on … M4: Pic Here. 0 Review . This is the profile the A2 uses. Add to Cart. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 3290 W. Big Beaver Rd. Threaded 5/8x24. A Colt Socom barrel tested by Molon was capable of producing an 30 round average sub-MOA load with an extreme spread of .9 inches and a mean radius of .35. Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by blakeforeal, Oct 7, 2014. I go back and forth between 18, 20 and 16". These 18" AR upper receivers are built in-house by expert builders with over 40 years of experience. The heavy barrel dampens harmonic vibrations as a bullet moves through the barrel, so bullet groupings at a distance are tighter, and the MOA is smaller. This 4150 CM barrel features: Timed barrel threads Milled front sight key Extractor cut Timing mark Hand lapped finish By retaining the original contour with a parkerized finish, this barrel is a perfect complement to your vintage service rifle. You are responsible for ensuring that the upper is in compliance with all local and State laws. AR-15, 7075 T6 Aluminum Upper Receiver, Gas Tube, Low Profile Gas Block, Free Float Rail or Handguard, Flash Hider or Muzzle Brake, Melonite or Stainless Steel Barrel AR-15 Upper Assemblies in 458 Socom | AR Complete Upper in 458 Socom Take note that on page 2 he compares the SOCOM to two 16 inch m4 profile barrels which he noted performed basically the same as their 14.5 inch counterparts. Another great option is the hybrid profile, where the barrel starts thicker by the receiver and gets thinner towards the muzzle. Alright guys, I recently posted a thread here about "YHM barrel vs. BCM" because I am planning to replace my 16" Bushmaster Heavy Barrel. Excellent stuff. Direct replacement barrel for the M1917 rifle. Add to Cart ; 13.7" 5.56 Midlength W/12" AR15 ATLAS R-One M-LOK Handguard Complete Upper $519.00. JavaScript is disabled. I'm sure if you give them the serial number they can look it up … Barrel extension installed, with M4 feed ramps. HBAR or M4 contour help me decide.... PS: same caliber, .223/5.56 so im looking at either 5.56 or .223 wylde barrels. I know they both have there pros and cons and to be honest I am kinda leaning towards the SOCOM just to say I have a more robust barrel. Maryland Shooters - Maryland's Premier Shooting Community. If you believe the enumerated weapon encompassed all Mini-14s with folding stocks, the answer would be, no, it's not OK, much as you cannot put a detachable mag in an SKS. 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